#164. Beyond Charisma: What Makes Leadership Truly Matter

Lasting leadership does not begin with charisma or ambition but with surrender, stewardship, and servanthood.

Dr Margaret Diddams and Dr Shirley Mullen coauthored Tried and True: The Countercultural Virtues of Christian Leadership, which draws on John Wesley as a wise and surprisingly relevant leadership tutor for cultivating courage, humility, and hope for leadership that can last a lifetime.

Dr Margaret Diddams IVPress Page

Dr Shirley Mullen IVPress Page

Book: Tried and True

Dr Margaret Diddams Amazon Page

Dr Shirley Mullen Amazon Page

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN:

  • Two Major Ways to Motivate People
  • Where Charisma Goes Wrong
  • Leaders Help People Flourish

ABOUT THE GUEST:

Dr Margaret Diddams is an industrial-organizational psychologist, leadership consultant, educator, and editor of Christian Scholar’s Review, whose work explores how Christian faith shapes leadership, character, and human flourishing. Having served in higher-education leadership, including as provost of Wheaton College, and in the corporate world at Microsoft, she brings both scholarly depth and practical experience to the question of what faithful leadership requires in complex institutions. She is coauthor, with Shirley Mullen, of Tried and True: The Countercultural Virtues of Christian Leadership, which draws on John Wesley as a wise and surprisingly relevant leadership tutor for cultivating courage, humility, and hope for leadership that can last a lifetime.

Dr Shirley Mullen served for four decades in the world of Christian higher education, most recently for 15 years as the President of Houghton University. She has earned doctorates in both history and philosophy. In retirement, she has served on several boards, and continued her mentoring of young leaders, as well as speaking and writing. Her book, Claiming the Courageous Middle, came out from Baker Academic in 2024.

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TIMESTAMPED SHOWNOTES:

00:39 – Introducing Dr Margaret Diddams & Dr Shirley Mullen

02:14 – Charisma is a Double-Edged Sword

04:16 – Two Major Ways to Motivate People

04:23 – …authority

04:30 – …influence

04:44 – …good leaders do both

05:00 – Where Charisma Goes Wrong

05:19 – …diffuse hope that is emotionally laden

07:12 – Charismatic Leaders Have Two Choices

07:17 – …deliver on their promises

07:26 – …instability and promise a different future

07:44 – Research on Charismatic Leaders

07:51 – …the perception is better than actuality

08:29 – …sense of entitlement

08:53 – …fallenness in leaders

10:54 – Leaders Help People Flourish

11:25 – …valuing people, not using them

11:56 – …healthy leaders ensure that people under you are growing and developing

12:34 – …leadership and calling set within God’s kingdom purposes

13:59 – …a healthy organization has growing people and growing leaders

14:52 – Takeaways from Dr Diddams and Dr Mullen

18:06 – Finding Dr Margaret Diddam and Dr Shirley Mullen: Amazon, LinkedIn

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